tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8714887.comments2012-03-05T14:56:30.184+11:00moonflowerdragonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09732125574025543300noreply@blogger.comBlogger136125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8714887.post-12839995442663195802012-03-05T14:56:30.184+11:002012-03-05T14:56:30.184+11:00Hi Anonymous, I hope you have a way to check back:<br /><br />An interesting one because of course this video was created in 1997 (noted in description, and in a copyright note at the end of the video). <br /><br />Note, the following is just my opinion, based upon the principles of the style to aid your reader to find your source. I&#39;m neither an APA style guardian nor your assessor. If your lecturer/assessor has preferences they override the official style or my opinion. <br /><br />Say you&#39;re referring to his clarification that it is not necessary to teach things in eight ways just because there are eight intelligences (Gardner, 1997, t=196s).<br /><br />I obtained the time location by pausing at that moment, right clicking the tracking ball and selecting &quot;Copy video URL at current time&quot; and extracting it from the end of the URL (which I pasted somewhere temporarily). <br /><br /><b>References:</b><br /><br />Gardner, H. (1997). <i>Howard Gardner on multiple intelligences</i> [video]. Edutopia. Retrieved from http://youtu.be/iYgO8jZTFuQ<br /><br />I grabbed the shorter URL for the reference list from Share under the video.moonflowerdragonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09732125574025543300noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8714887.post-42578776927884876962012-03-05T08:37:12.504+11:002012-03-05T08:37:12.504+11:00Hey any chance you could give me a hand here? I need to know how to reference this video http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&amp;v=iYgO8jZTFuQ#! and am very confused about how to do so... Could you give me any advice on in-text citations as well as how it should appear in my reference list please?<br />Thanks a bunch!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8714887.post-10775586133208183052012-02-25T07:24:49.966+11:002012-02-25T07:24:49.966+11:00My God, thank you. I&#39;m writing a series of papers about Final Fantasy VII and I&#39;ve been floundering with how to cite this for days. Thank you!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8714887.post-36917511627377491102011-12-18T17:42:43.166+11:002011-12-18T17:42:43.166+11:00Thanks morgan :-) I too get mixed up hearing my own surname. Although my deduction that Wilson was your surname from your Twitter and FriendFeed profiles might have been completely wrong, I believe I once checked it against a paper you shared (happy to be corrected if I was mistaken). <br /><br />I think that the name under which a person &quot;pens&quot; their comment is just as (or sometimes more) important, particularly online where a person becomes known by their screennames. <br /><br />According to APA, if we can find the writer&#39;s real name then we use that - it goes with the academic purposes (over and above credit) of citation; however if no official name is available then we use the screen-name. Whether or not we use the screen-name located with the quoted material or another reliably traced and significant, I don&#39;t think APA goes into precisely, but would come back to APA&#39;s principles - the most significant of which I think would be to help the reader locate the source. <br /><br />In this case, I would have cited you as morgan - lowercase and all. In this case not explodedlibrary because although that is the title of your blog, it is not the name used with the comment. <br /><br />Somewhere between the name attached to a piece of writing and a person&#39;s real-world name, I can easily imagine might be one or two other identifications that might be more well-known or authoritative or meaningful. If any or all of alternate (and reliably traced) identities are relevant to the point being cited they might be worth mentioning in-text or in a footnote. <br /><br />At another level, if a publication is in someway professionally significant, it could be worth attempting to contact the author (whose comment was sufficiently significant to be cited) to ask under which name they would prefer the citation.<br /><br />Thus, I guess, I could have included &quot;(who blogs at explodedlibrary)&quot; or &quot;(of explodedlibrary fame)&quot;. It might have added a diverting if not strictly correct amusement to recognise &quot;the exploded librarian&quot;.moonflowerdragonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09732125574025543300noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8714887.post-28925987894749872322011-12-18T13:45:14.179+11:002011-12-18T13:45:14.179+11:00Thanks for the example of referencing the comment! I was reading this post and I started wondering who is this Wilson guy? Would you do this the same if you didn&#39;t know the name and only the blogging handle, such as explodedlibrary?morganhttp://profile.typepad.com/6p00d8341c99b753efnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8714887.post-49872430236026685202011-12-13T02:18:49.306+11:002011-12-13T02:18:49.306+11:00Thanks scribeswindow. Feel free to look me up in SL when you arrive. I should probably update my avatar experiences if you&#39;re referring to the old post about which I&#39;m thinking.moonflowerdragonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09732125574025543300noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8714887.post-91059136585556683502011-12-12T14:46:50.900+11:002011-12-12T14:46:50.900+11:00The semester I just finished found me doing an assignment looking at how to include ICT in an English classroom. Due to time restraints I was only able to scratch the surface of Secondlife and I remember making a mental note to go back and check it out properly. You&#39;ve just reminded me of this promise! Very interesting on the success of the virtual library for its users. In fact I had no idea there was a library, but now I know to check that out too. This is the first post of yours I&#39;ve read on Secondlife and I&#39;m about to read some others. I&#39;ll check out your making an avatar as well as I have a feeling I just might be spending some time there.......scribeswindowhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05724431705478298675noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8714887.post-68027785257932090772011-11-06T03:57:23.107+11:002011-11-06T03:57:23.107+11:00This was so useful to me! Thanks so much for posting information on music available online! I&#39;m writing a paper for my MLS on some book trailers I did and need to cite the music I used that I retrieved off of Creative Commons. Finding your blog was a lifesaver.Sponge for Knowledgehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09757590450848933692noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8714887.post-10108776119823303572011-07-23T00:41:56.112+10:002011-07-23T00:41:56.112+10:00Ah dkl<br /><br />I&#39;ve used trackbacks as a reader, but haven&#39;t yet worked out how to facilitate them as a blogger.moonflowerdragonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09732125574025543300noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8714887.post-3029438494387476972011-07-22T11:12:09.379+10:002011-07-22T11:12:09.379+10:00I love the way you unpack the layers of meaning in Alex Ross&#39;s video in this post! And happy I could play a part in it. Thanks so much for the encouragement to keep blogging! (File this one under: learning about trackbacks; better late than never).dklhttp://spookyandthemetronome.wordpress.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8714887.post-46095683221724925792011-07-18T09:18:46.371+10:002011-07-18T09:18:46.371+10:00Hi,<br /><br />I am a marketing master&#39;s degree student at WVU, and I was searching for guidance on how to cite a blog comment in APA syle and found this blog post. Thanks for making the info available. But then I read your example closer and realized that you are probably my kind of person, because you used a Pharyngula example. And if you read Pharyngula, like I do (although I never post), then we would probably get along well. So this is just a tip of my hat to you, fellow Pharyngula friend. See you around the web.<br /><br />-SarahSarahhttp://blog.marketubes.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8714887.post-56880632518396591972011-05-29T21:32:32.417+10:002011-05-29T21:32:32.417+10:00Hi there, I was searching google on how to cite a game for my reference list and came across your blog post about citing APA style. Ended up perusing many of your posts and thought I&#39;d comment that you have a great blog. I have similar interests to you, so I suppose that helps. Anyway, in answer to your question, I&#39;d say yes, libraries do need mobility. I&#39;ve just finished a major assignment (due tomorrow) about digital literacy and using games in classrooms, and I&#39;d have to say that teaching needs to become mobile too. Remaining static isn&#39;t the answer. Hope that makes sense!! Too tired after long assignment.....scribeswindowhttp://scribeswindow.blogspot.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8714887.post-66796166142863076242011-04-09T06:21:37.079+10:002011-04-09T06:21:37.079+10:00hahahah anonymous got busted. I have the same problem with post made with automated software. Even without been on the first pages of google spam comments come in great bulk :pengineering leveling guidehttp://engineering-leveling-guide.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8714887.post-62670969171725218332011-03-30T19:43:54.736+11:002011-03-30T19:43:54.736+11:00Fascinating, articulate and insightful as ever - don&#39;t stop doing what you do so well. Great news about you starting the CSU course. You make a great technician but you&#39;ll make an even better librarian.Fridayhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11583537669857031041noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8714887.post-2173987458339361192010-12-05T00:56:01.089+11:002010-12-05T00:56:01.089+11:00thank goodness someone has addressed this behemoth of a citation. did not know where to begin before reading your blog. still seems loosey goosey, but that is the nature of an informal cite. I will give the citation a stab.annahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17331844897734127055noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8714887.post-46940923095259400532010-11-10T15:31:54.243+11:002010-11-10T15:31:54.243+11:00rahul, it is nice to hear that you enjoyed my post. You might like to know that I am not publishing your comment, kind though it was of you to express your appreciation, because the link embedded in your name is a link to site whose URL expresses questionable connotations.moonflowerdragonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09732125574025543300noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8714887.post-61763074158515221062010-10-20T02:01:54.330+11:002010-10-20T02:01:54.330+11:00Okay Martina<br /><br />I&#39;ve been held up finalising the posts, spent too much time trying to get them perfect then got distracted by life back at home... but I&#39;m beginning to publish a few notes on the trip over <a href="http://countingeverything.blogspot.com/search/label/trip" rel="nofollow">at the family blog</a>...moonflowerdragonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09732125574025543300noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8714887.post-27387464327553735622010-09-30T19:51:39.933+10:002010-09-30T19:51:39.933+10:00I want to hear all about the trip :-)Martinahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15488506288267231227noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8714887.post-16708273899066196362010-09-28T01:49:29.061+10:002010-09-28T01:49:29.061+10:00:D Thank you Kathryn, I&#39;m so pleased to receive your perspective and questions. I hope my joyful reply comes clearly through my wonderful fuzzy Amarula-soaked relaxation (read how to fight back pain when codeine makes me nauseous)...<br /><br />First: shoulds usually meet dependses, and such is the case here: it will depend on the audience for which our citation list is destined, the purpose of the work supported by our citations, the purpose of our citations, and the relative importance of accuracy or detail in an individual citation for any of those.<br /><br />Personally, I feel that if an idea is, within or associated with its expression, identifiable with the originator of that idea, then its fair / honest / courteous to credit that originator.<br /><br />However, even if I (or other readers here) do not feel that personal inclination, then my (their) audience or publisher might still expect credit to be cited where due. Is it a valid suggestion that if a source is worth citing then it is worth identifying the person/s responsible for the value of that source?<br /><br />Given the difference between the way Youtube functions (one merely needs authority to upload a video file, not to declare oneself as its creator), and Zotero&#39;s metadata needs, I think Zotero has made the right decision in not presuming uploaders or profile owners to be &quot;authors&quot;. However this does mean that Zotero is unable to provide a complete citation for Youtube videos. To be honest, much as I love Zotero I doublecheck every single citation it saves for me, as Zotero is dependent upon the quality of data via its sources.<br /> <br />I think the only time I would &quot;play it safe&quot; in so far as that means not list an &quot;author&quot; is if I could not be reasonably sure who is responsible for the particular idea or expression that I would cite as source, and thus do not wish to make a misattribution. For example: say the uploader disclaims responsibility for the particular aspect to which I refer, or an idea is expressed by an interviewee who is not named or for some other reason I have doubt that the uploader or credited video-producer is personally responsible for the particular idea to which I refer, contained within the video.<br /><br />So as a more direct answer: although I guess there may be situations where it is not necessarily a &quot;should&quot;, I would indeed search video credits and other material associated with the upload for the identity of the producer or more specific creative entity if relevant. If I am reasonably sure that the uploader is creator of the video I cite then I would also search for the identity of the person behind the screen-name, even (given a real rather than hypothetical scenario) it is also possible that I might contact the uploader through Youtube to query or clarify an appropriate identification for citation. However if no real ID can be found, no other ID given in credits and yet still reasonably sure the uploader is creator, I would use the screen-name under the assumption it is how the creator wishes to be known in this context.moonflowerdragonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09732125574025543300noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8714887.post-57149373375454080312010-09-26T16:27:16.450+10:002010-09-26T16:27:16.450+10:00I am *not* a referencing guru at all (sadly) ... but I have always been interested to note that Zotero does not automatically add the profile owner&#39;s name to the citation, instead citing something like Michael Wesch&#39;s The Machine is (Us)ing us like this (but with italicised title) <br /><br />The Machine is Us/ing Us (Final Version). (2007). . Retrieved from http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NLlGopyXT_g&amp;feature=youtube_gdata_player<br /><br />(also adding in the &quot;feature=...player&quot; bit that I always delete)<br /><br />It seemed to me that this was reasonable as the person who uploads is not always the producer or even associated with the creative output, and as you point out in the Jenny Levine example sometimes it is better to attribute differently.<br /><br />What do you think, should you seek to discover the producer by examining the credits of the work (if there are any), or play it safe and cite without an &quot;author&quot;. I feel bad about not crediting Michael Wesch, however most of my videos uploaded to YouTube are loaded as either &quot;sirexkat&quot; or &quot;infoventurer&quot;, and it would be odd to use that in the citation.<br /><br />What do you think?Kathryn Greenhillhttp://librariansmatter.com/blognoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8714887.post-20026846577085557372010-09-26T16:16:33.020+10:002010-09-26T16:16:33.020+10:00Fabulousness. Thank you. I was looking for a great guide for my class. Keep it up... :)Kathryn Greenhillhttp://librariansmatter.com/blognoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8714887.post-27850620572556145012010-09-08T21:22:03.494+10:002010-09-08T21:22:03.494+10:00Very True, If all we are contend with what we have. We will be happy forever.Great Mininghttp://www.greatmining.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8714887.post-23515140927097734822010-09-05T05:24:28.598+10:002010-09-05T05:24:28.598+10:00I have found http://www.copyscape.com/ to be a good tool for plagiarism. Thank you for the post.Tulsa Chiropractorhttp://www.findtulsachiropractor.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8714887.post-75613125326987760022010-09-02T23:14:44.869+10:002010-09-02T23:14:44.869+10:00That was spongebob&#39;s quote.Solar Panelhttp://www.gpgsolar.com.au/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8714887.post-84094842233917913872010-09-01T16:47:27.786+10:002010-09-01T16:47:27.786+10:00I stumbled over here from a different web page and figured I might as well take a look around. Like what I see so now I&#39;m following you. Look forward to checking out your web page later on.<br /><br /><a href="http://savingforkids.co.uk/" rel="nofollow">parents</a>rashidahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05887829147550254155noreply@blogger.com